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I totally control every aspect of my show. Nobody in the crowd will hi-jack it into a smut fest.
That may be true for those of you who have done this for a while. I had an employee put up "Sittin' At A Bar" (or something like that) ... a nice country song. Right? Nope. Had the F-bomb in it. Since I have kids at my show I felt really bad.wiseguy wrote:Censoring your books means only that you are one dimensional and can accommodate only one type of audience. It's the KJ that controls the show, not the songs in the book. If a song is not appropriate for a particular situation then it will not be allowed. The same song might be fine in another circumstance. That's versatility.
OMG! that child will be scarred forever! How will he ever get over hearing that horrible horrible F word being sung?Sabrina59 wrote:
That may be true for those of you who have done this for a while. I had an employee put up "Sittin' At A Bar" (or something like that) ... a nice country song. Right? Nope. Had the F-bomb in it. Since I have kids at my show I felt really bad.
I think what I am going to do is put a (#) in the title of the songs that contain "adult" lyrics so I will know which ones to allow at the family show.
I have very few of the songs BD is talking about. The only reason I have them is because they came on a disc that also contained a song I had a request for. I have a very good selection of songs that appeals to chldren of all ages. I just don't think I need to include some of the songs I don't care for.
I doubt if I would exclude them if they come on a disc that I purchase, but I am not going to go out of my way to purchase them. But you all have to remember where I am coming from. I was a karaoke enthusiast who had a show fall in my lap. Most of the songs in my collection are in the genres of music that I like.
I don't need to give them options. I give them big crowds and lots of money. They love me and every song that is sung. Not once has a bar owner asked me to disallow any song.Bigdog wrote:KJs should be honest and let the bar owner know that his crowd will be subjected to HEAVY DUTY swearing because you do not edit your book.
BE BRAVE.....Offer the bar owner the option. Let them decide what their crowd will be subjected to.
No, these things are illegal and the songs are not.Bigdog wrote:The smut show is no different than the bar allowing drugs to be used and sold. Or prostitutes to openly solicit. Or gang members to meet there. Or constant fighting or guns. Or public nudity.
Look again. All those places are open to people of all ages. Your typical bar allows adults only. And where I live by law every bar is a private club.Bigdog wrote:Last time I looked bars are public places just like the library, bakery, bank, post office, business work places...etc. All of which would not tolerate or allow swearing.
They are free at any time to let me go... but they don't. Could it be that money speaks louder than some perceived sense of morality?Bigdog wrote:Is it fair to not allow the bar owner the option to decide if they want a KJ that edits out the major swearing songs to protect their crowds and their reputation?
At least you admit you're a hypocrite. The goodie two shoes crowd that you tend too are mostly hypocrites too but they try to keep it a secret.Bigdog wrote:I swear more than anyone. But not at my shows in a public venue with a mixed crowd. I don't want that reputation.
Well,I work at a professional level that gets me paid more than any of my competitors. That has provided me with a waiting list of clients. That has accumulated a large following of regulars. That's given me the reputation as the fairest KJ in the area.Bigdog wrote:At what professional level are you willing to work your business? Any KJ can get work...but at what level?
The definition of hypocrite "somebody who pretends to have admirable principles, beliefs, or feelings but behaves otherwise."Bigdog wrote:How am I a hypocrite to admit I swear like a sailor in PRIVATE.
Any bar owner who doesn't know that songs can be omitted from a book isn't intelligent enough to run a business so there is nobody I need to explain this to. Do you think that the bars I do are never approached by other companies with every sales pitch imaginable, including censoring song books. Well they are and I have never been replaced by any one of them.Bigdog wrote:If you were a bar owner...you wouldn't want to know all your options??? Especially when it pertains to the bars reputation and its cliental quality?
I don't do dive bars. They don't pay enough.Bigdog wrote:Anyone can get a job in a dive bar. How many want to?
You're right there. If you look back though some other threads you'll see that the other pro KJs on this forum agree with me on this issue. They're not speaking up now and probably prefer leaving the dead horse alone. And at this point, I will also.Sabrina59 wrote:I don't know why you guys keep this up; neither of you are ever going to give an inch!